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happening now, breaking news, questioned by the fbi, investigators are questioning the las vegas gunman's girlfriend who returned overnight from the fiphilippine. can she shed light on the massacre of a lot of people? meticulous planning, how the gunman carefully planned the slaughter bringing in guns, and setting up cameras. did a security guard interrupt the slaughter saving lives? comforter in chief,
president trump meets with survivors of the massacre, along with first responders and medical teams praising their heroism and calling the shooter sick and demeant td. but avoids the topic of gun control. and kremlin con knifing, senate intelligence leaders warn moscow is still trying to interfere with america's democracy as cnn learns that thousands of russian linked facebook ads targeted at least a dozen states including key election battle grounds. i'm wolf blitzer here in "the situation room". breaking news, president trump is on his way back to washington this hour after visiting with some of those wounded in the las vegas massacre along with medical teams and first responders. the president praised the hero wism of those involved and called the shootder very sick and demented. but so far is refusing to address the issue of gun
violence. police have released body camera video revealing the chaos in the desperation as bullets rain down on the concert goers in the las vegas. but they are still trying to come up with motive and now interviewing the girlfriend of gunman stephen paddock marilou dunley who returned to the united states from philippines. investigators have been putting together a profile and his meticulous mass murder. they know he bought 23 guns some meant to act as fully automatic weapons. also positioned cameras allowing him to track the approach of the police officers. >> also tonight the leader of senate intelligence committee warns russian efforts continues. but they say the collusion and trump campaign is still an open question. cnn has learned that 3,000 russian linked facebook ads
targeted specific geographical areas, including key swing states like wisconsin and michigan. all speak with clark county jim gibson and specialists and guests all standing by with full coverage. let's begin with las vegas massacre investigation which may get a boost as the fbi questions the girlfriend of the gunman. let's go straight to brian todd on the scene in las vegas. brian, what's the latest? >> reporter: well, wolf, as you mentioned the shooters girlfriend marilou dunley is back in the united states tonight. the fbi is interviewing her. trying to learn what she knows about stephen pad document motive and planning. this comes as we are getting new information tonight, more details about the first moments of the shooting ahow hotel guests and security guard quick actions may have saved lots of lives. this newly released bodycam
video shows first second of the shooting. police can be seen taking cover and trying to get civilians protected as a hail of gunfire rains down from an unknown source. one officer dashes across an open space. at least a dozen shots. after it starts one keys in on the windows of mandalay bay. inside hotel security staff trying to narrow do you know where the shooter might be while outside the hotel police try to triangulate. >> i see the shots coming from mandalay bay halfway up. coming out a window. anybody have eyes on him? >> officers narrow it down to the 29th through 32nd floor. >> i'm on 32nd floor. approaches the door of stephen paddock suite. police say he set up three cameras to monitor police in the hallway. a cable leads to the cart that
held one camera, another on the door peep hole. paddock opens fire at the security guard. >> hit a security guard. anybody on the outside heard any further shots? >> that's negative. >> reporter: with the shooting stopped, first responders moved to help save those injured below. while officers in the hotel regroup. by the time s.w.a.t. blows the door, paddock is dead on the floor. inside the room, police find a cache of 23 weapons. these photos show how he planned for the massacre, neatly stacked ammunition, hammer for the window, tonight vinvestigators talking to someone who knew him well, his live in girlfriend marilou dunley who returned to the u.s. overnight. interviewing her. sisters say he sent her on
surprise trip to the philippines in advance of the shooting. >> he was sending her away. she was sent away so that she would be not there to interfere with what he was planning. >> reporter: now, since she was live in girlfriend, marilou dunley may well be able to tell about his accumulation of weapons. and atf spokesperson tells him tonight he purchased 33 firearms, mostly rifles between october 2016 and september of 2017. law enforcement officials tell cnn he accumulated weapons for more than 20 years. so the girlfriend, live in girlfriend may have information on that. >> and police say they found 47 guns so far in his homes and the suite. and thousands and thousands of rounds of ammunition. meanwhile, brian, a top fbi
official made a somewhat surprising comment about the shooter's possible motive. tell us about that. >> reporter: he did, wolf. andrew mccabe delawaputy direct of the fbi told an another news outlet the fact they have not discovered a clear motive is a surprise in this investigation. he says at this point in investigations similar to this one they discovered a motive. he said it's a surprise they have not discovered a clear motive. but again that might be due to the girlfriend taking time to get back to the united states from the philippines. so hopefully they'll get some more information soon from her. >> they suspect they are getting closer to discovering that motive but not there yet. brian todd in las vegas for us. thank you. president trump is returning to washington after meeting with some of those wounded in las vegas massacre along with first responders. senior white house correspondent is in las vegas.
tell us about the president's visit, jim. >> reporter: wolf, as you said the president and first lady back to washington after meeting with survivals of the las vegas massacre. earlier the white house took great pains to keep the president's trip here more subdued and scripted than other official visits in recent days. in a city in desperate need of comfort, they toured the hospital in las vegas where they are searching for answers. >> we ask god to ease that you are suffering and speed their healing. we pray for the recovery of the injured and those injured officers who so bravely threw themselves into danger when duty called. >> reporter: president praised the medical staff that treated the wounded. >> all the doctors and hospitals have done, job that's in describable. and offered his own thing about
the killer. >> he's demented. >> reporter: one topic he won't take on is gun control. white house is clearing stir of the issue. let's gather the facts before we make it. let's be clear new laws won't stop a mad man. the talking points ask, did he have radical ties. despite the fact that they believe the gunman acted alone, the president doesn't always wait. after mass shootings in san bernardino california and orlando. advocates for more gun control say the time to confront the itch ooh you is now. >> how many more must die? 100? 1,000? 10,000? a million?
what is your blood price? how many more must die? >> now is the time to come together. be responsible. democrats, republicans, everyone. we must never stop fighting. fight, fight, night. >> reporter: president trip to las vegas was much more controlled than his trip to puerto rico. where mr. trump tossed rolls of paper towels and joked it would be pricey. on this day the president struck the right tone talking to the first responders that rushed into the line of fire. >> you told us what professionalism is all about. >> reporter: now the president and the first lady they did not make a special trip down to the crime scene but they didn't have to. air force one was of course parked at the las vegas airport just a short distance from the
mandalay bay casino. up and down las vegas boulevard, wolf, were signs saying pray for vegas and vegas strong. >> thanks for that report. joining us now the clark county nevada commissioner jim gibson from las vegas. mr. gibson, thanks so much for joining us. based on the information you are receiving, and i know you've been speaking with investigators, are they any closer to answering the key question on everyone's mind, what motivated this killer? >> i know that the investigation is under way, ongoing. they have intensified to the extent that they can the entire investigation. at this moment i don't know how much closer they are. they'll tell us when they are ready, i suppose. >> when you see the arsenal of weapons and carefully laid cameras in and out side that suite at the mandalay bay hotel, what does that tell you about his state of mind and how long
he perhaps was planning this? >> this man was deranged in every sense of the word. this was all about killing. this was not about anything else. i don't have any clue about what might have been his contacts, his education, experience, in life i don't know anything about that except what we've read. what i do know is he was deranged and meticulous in the way that he put together his killing assets. what an incredible horrible, horrible thing. >> there are reports, as you well know, not just in las vegas, in your county, but elsewhere, that the gunman may have actually cased an earlier music festival in las vegas. what, if anything, can you tell us about evidence he might have planned perhaps another massacre? >> i really can't tell you anything more about that. i've heard the things that are
out there. i've read on social media things. but in terms of official response, i really can't respond officially because i don't know anything in particular about that. and i don't know facts. i don't know that any facts have really been confirmed by the investigation. >> i know there is it a lot of focus of course, as there should be, on the heroism of the first responders and a lot of the concert goers. there were 22,000 at that concert. i want to ask you about the actions, though, of one security guard at the hotel, the mandalay bay hotel who was the first to engage stephen paddock and shot in the process of the hallway. do you believe this security guard may have prevented this massacre from becoming even worse? >> absolutely. anything that distracted him from the window, from the things he was doing aiming down across
the road, protected and mitigated in some degree. obviously this guy in the moments he was engaging in the security officer could have been firing off dozens if not hundreds of rounds. so the security guard did what all of the first responders did, they rushed in to danger's path. they didn't shy away. they did everything they could do. and think about it ten minutes and police officer was breaking the door down to find this mandan. i think that's a remarkable thing. that's a big building. while you can see the windows from outside determining where that room is is not as easy as one might think. the security at the hotel. first responders. and people who were inside the venue responded in a way that is heroic. there is just no other way to describe it. zbll that security guard, by the way, we all thank him for what he did, jesus compost for what
you did. is it time, commissioner for more stringent gun control laws in the united states? >> we are going to evaluate everything that has happened in the past few days and everything that happens going forward. there surely going to be an appropriate discussion about every single piece of this, including the firearms, and their availability, and all of that. the thing that we need to keep sight of is that this was a deranged person. las vegas today is open for business. it's a safe place. there st there isn't a question in anyone's mind that's the case. people coming into town, continue to come into town. we continue to host them safely and we'll continue to do that. we don't think there is anything missing right now that makes las vegas safer, but we do believe that every single aspect of our response and even before our
response, the things that occurred, needs to be in review so we are certain we got it right and that we are improving each time anything like this happens. and we have benefited from the discussions that have been had between our community and boston and other places that have experienced similar massacres. this is one that we are all learning from. but i'll tell you it was amazing thing. amazing feat to see people inside that venue gave assistance and police and others responded. this is an example of what humanity, the good side of humanity, and what we need to do more frequently for one another. >> good point. amazing, amazing stories. and more and more of them are coming in. i know all the hotels, major hotels in las vegas right now, hotels elsewhere, they are reviewing their security to make sure that they have everything in place down the road so that
horrible massacre like this doesn't happen again. jim gibson, thanks for everything you are doing. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> we are going to have more on the breaking news coming into "the situation room" as we get new information on the las vegas massacre, the heroism that followed, the ongoing investigation. and after a stunning report that he called the president a moron, secretary of state tillerson goes public saying that he has no plans to quit. >> to address a few specifics that have been erroneously reported this morning, the vice president has never had to say to remain because i have never considered leaving this post.
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our breaking news president trump now heading back to washington after meeting with survivors of the las vegas massacre along with medical staffers and first responders. that comes a mid more signs of the continuing discord within his administration. following a stunning report that he had called the president of the united states a, quote, moron, secretary of state rex tillerson took the extraordinary step to go public to re-affirm his commitment to the president and his job. let's bring in our white house reporter kaitlin working the story. what is this all about? >> reporter: that's right. wolf. cnn has confirmed that secretary tillerson was frustrated over the sum they're he referred to him as a moron. and also learned that the president was aware of this
remark before nbc first published that report earlier today. but there has been some tension between these two men for a while. we saw tillerson try to distance himself from the president after he made the contentious remarks about the deadly clashes in charlottesville. and recently we saw the president under cut tillerson on twitter when he said he should stop wasting his time by trying to have dialogue with north korea. but what's knew now is we are seeing this spill out into the public eye. those state department spokesman denied earlier that tillerson referred to the president as moron. either tillerson didn't go that far at a press conference earlier today. listen. >> address the main head line of the story that you called the president a moron. and if not where do you think the reports are coming from? >> i'm not going to deal with petty tough like this. this is what i don't understand about washington. again, i'm not from this place. but the places i come from, we don't deal with that kind of pet
n pety nonsense. >> reporter: so he insisted during that press conference he has a close relationship and thinks he is smart. but there is no out right denial from the moron remark. now tillerson said did he not speak to the president before he gave the remark earlier today. but we heard from the president a short while ago about his response. listen to that. >> i'm honored about his comments. it was fake news. totally fake story. it was made up by nbc. thank you all. total confidence in him. >> reporter: nbc had multiple sources for that and cnn has independently identified the moron remark. but sounds like tillerson job is safe for now. the president is aware any he profile departure from his administration. but what's clear the tension between these two men are at all-time high. >> senator corker of the senate foreign relations committee, he
said i think secretary tillerson, secretary mattis and chief of staff kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos. and i support them very much. strong words from senator corker. >> reporter: that's right. you don't typically hear remarks from someone speaking of high profile people in administration. but we heard recently is that senator corker is retiring and not running for re-election. so being very open with his thoughts here, wolf. >> yeah, direct swipe at the president of the united states. all right. thanks very much. kaitlin collins over at the white house. coming up more on the breaking news, more details emerging indian the las vegas massacre investigation as the fbi questions the girlfriend of the shooter. can she provide them with a motive? and the senate intelligence committee warning moscow is meddling with america's democracy. cnn learns that thousands of facebook ads targeted key election battleground states.
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committee briefed reporters today. while many questions about possible collusion involving the trump campaign remain unanswered, both senators agree russia still very much trying to create chaos here in side the united states. let's bring in hour senior congressional correspondent manu covering this for us. what else have they said? >> reporter: they said they have done an investigation nine-month inquiry saying they talked to roughly 100 people. actually went through more than 100,000 pages of documents, about 4,000 transcript pages as well. but they said there were a lot of unanswered questions. including this major question, did anyone in the trump campaign collude with the russians as part of an effort to meddle with the elections? that's still a question that senator richard burr says is outstanding. >> the president has said that any talk of collusion is a hoax.
we've gone through all these documents and interviewed all these people. at this point is the president right is it a hoax? >> i'm going to let you guys quote the president and ask him questions what he says. it's not going to be the committee. >> do you have any evidence to suggest to rule out that the president knew anything about the meetings between associates and russians? >> let me go back and say i thought i was pretty clear. that the issue of collusion is still open. that we continue to investigate both in tell begitelligence and and we are not at a point where we've completed the process. >> reporter: now the committee does want to interview 25 more witnesses this month. those would happen mostly in a classified setting. but burr did suggest that they were having some issues with other witnesses, including christopher steel who is british agent that compiled the dossier looking at any potential things
between trump and officials. could not get his cooperation with their own investigation. and i asked senator burr if he was open to issuing a subpoena, but he said he's not an american witness, wolf, he probably wouldn't be successful if doing that. but it sounds like from both him and warninger ther the investigs a long way to go. probably not this year. but next year during the election season. >> cnn has learned that russian facebook ads targeted wisconsin and michigan. what have you learned about that? >> reporter: yeah, learning roughly 3,000 ads that facebook submitted to congress tied to russia, had efforts to try to go after swing states, wisconsin and michigan being two of them. some of the ads went all over the map, some nothing to do with the outcome of the election, but
we are learning for the first time some of these ads that did appear in these swing states. now some of them promoted very device certificate messages. and they could be seen as affecting one, wasn't clear they were necessarily designed to have help one candidate over the other. but, wolf, the committee also made clear that if any one wants to see these ads, it will be up to facebook to publicly release these 3,000 ads. someone on the committee says it will not do as part of the investigation. and facebook says they are unlikely to release the ads publicly trying to protect public information so the public may not see what was in the ads, we may have to rely on descriptions as well as where they were targeted and designed to help the election outcome and
designed to help president trump. >> i don't see why they don't release the ads? what if they do, what privacy? >> that's a great question. facebook has not gotten a clear explanation, other than they said they are trying to protect user information in not releasing these publicly. but they will get a lot of pressure. already getting pressure to release the ads. and specifically mike conley does believe that those asds should be released so we'll see if they pressure them or do it themselves. >> thanks very much. on capitol hill. let's bring in our specialist, phil mud, i'll start with you. how did you interpret the comments from the chairman, ranking memory fusing to close the books on the collusion aspect of this probe? >> he has to do that.
let's go back to last summer when we saw information about donald trump junior, email information indicating that he met with the russian lawyer about first he said adoption issues, then we learned it was also about getting dirt on hillary clinton. we can prove something happen because we have an email trail. what we learn is how do you prove something didn't happen? how do you know where every official was? everything they say is true? same problem you have in las vegas. how do you prove that the girlfriend of the killer never had a conversation with the killer about the motive for that killing? proving a negative is hard. and finally one reason proving it hard is the senate doesn't have, congress doesn't have the same forensic capability as fbi. they don't have the man power to look at things like financial records and find out whether there is collusion.
>> senator gloria, as you know, refused to discuss the president things that the whole russia probe is a hoax. what did you think of that moment? >> i think it's important. you have a key republican here saying that the committee, republicans and democrats, agree with the assessment of the intelligence community. what he didn't do was say, oh, well we believe that there was interference on the side to help donald trump, i think that was a very smart move on the part of the chairman. because you don't want to prejudice the rest of their investigation. so while he didn't come down on one side or another because they said that it was just meant to create chaos, they went that far. but they are not done with their investigation yet. so, you know, i think that if i were in the white house right now or if i were president trump who keeps calling it a hoax, i
might stop a little bit because your republican chairman of the intelligence committee is saying no it's not. >> mark preston, some republicans are eager for these congressional investigations to wrap up. how much pressure is on the senate intelligence committee right now, and other committees, judiciary committee for example, to reach some definitive conclusions in this investigation and to wrap it up quickly? >> well, wolf, there is no doubt a lot of stuff going into this. they do not want to become political damaged, collateral damage to what this investigation may or may not show as it continues forward. but they have to be careful. and i do think for all the criticism that we talk about these investigations and how they have been handled so far going through, richard burr in the senate really has done a good job of working closely with
his democratic counter part and having the two gentlemen stand side by side today to deliver that report and up date i think was very, very important. but, wolf, let's not forget, not only did you say the judiciary committee in the senate, intelligence committee, then you have the house intelligence committee. in addition to all that, there is that parallel investigation right now that robert mueller is overseeing, that independent inquiry. could you imagine in the united states senate intelligence committee came out with a finding saying they found nothing only to have robert mueller come out weeks, months later saying in fact that they had? so i do think that the intelligence committee kind of has to keep pace with what's going on with the other committees to make sure they don't get it wrong. >> yeah, good point. everybody stand by. we have much more coming into "the situation room." we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. for the future.e who's he? he's the green money you can spend now. what's up? gonna pay some bills, maybe buy a new tennis racket.
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back with our specialists. and gloria, let me get your reaction to that statement made earlier today by the secretary of state rex tillerson denying a nbc report that he threatened to resign this summer after a series of disagreements with the president. but he didn't deny one aspect of that report that he called the president a moron during a private meeting. the state department spokesperson did deny that. what do you make of this? >> look, wolf, no secret this
has been a relationship that has been fraught. we knew about this last summer remember, when rex tillerson took a tu days off. and we understand there has been an awful lot of friction between rex tillerson and jared kushner who has a foreign policy portfolio. there has also been disagreements on foreign policy between the president and rex tillerson. so this is a very difficult relationship. and when that story broke this morning, it wasn't well received. and the story was to deny it although our reporters said it. so it's clear this relationship probably is not going to belong lasting. we do know the president has had difficult relationships with a lot of members of his cabinet, including jeff sessions whom he called that whom jeff sessions still replaimains in the cabine.
but we'll have to let this play out. >> jeff price not in the cabinet. >> yeah, not in the cabinet. >> how did you react when you saw him doesn't show up? he wanted to react. >> yeah, not surprised. why did he do it? we can speculate he did it because he was told to do it. as you said, wolf, secretary of state hasn't been necessarily media friendly in that he doesn't do a lot of news conferences. not handout and about with reporters that cover the state department. but oftentimes you look beyond those who are the principles in the discussions donald trump, and secretary of state at this point and you only have to go to people on the outside such as bob corker and see what his response was to it. chairman of the foreign relations committee basically, he backed up tillerson, and he acknowledged and noted that tillerson has been put in a bad spot by this president and he wished that tillerson actually
had more backing from the president. so sometimes you look for the allies of the president or at those you expect to be, and so far hasn't been that good. >> very quickly, phil. is it fobl apossible for the administration when so many feuds are playing out in public? >> no. simple reason why. you need discipline over time to execute difficult places on north korea. you need personnel in place. we have lost chief strategist. dissension with the attorney general. evidently there is also obviously with the secretary of state. the second and final problem, we not only have a problem with discipline over time because of turn over, on issues, whether tearing up the iran nuclear deal, whether transgender policy, in each of these issues he has differences with staff. so how do you do that when you
staff over? >> everyone stick around. stay with cnn throughout the evening. later tonight, 9:00 p.m. eastern, chris cuomo does this. tune in later tonight. 9:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. coming up, more on the breaking news in the las vegas investigation. fbi agents are now questioning the gunman's girlfriend. also puerto rico death count in the wake of hurricane maria nearly doubles [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette and her new mobile wedding business. at first, getting paid was tough... until she got quickbooks. now she sends invoices, sees when they've been viewed and-ta-dah-paid twice as fast for free. visit quickbooks-dot-com.
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? tonight, we're keeping our eyes on a developing storm that may affect the u.s. gulfcoast this weekend. the as of yet unnamed tropical depression off nicaragua, threatening to go towards the panhandle. threatening victims in puerto rico, the death toll has nearly doubled. leyla, update us on the situation as it is right now. >> you know, as we have been out on the ground we are seeing more fema aid distributed in the last two days and seeing more movement of that.
part of the complaint of the people in the municipalities themselves and the more rural area is the bureaucracy. we asked fema to compare how things are working here versus the mainland u.s. off camera, they told us in puerto rico, the way the logistics are being handle right now the products go from fema to the national guard, the national guard to the municipality and then in the hands of the victim. in mainland u.s. it goes straight from fema to the people. part of the issue getting this aid to the people that need it the most is bureaucracy according to the organizers themselves distributing the goods. the latest on the death toll, that changed just hours when the president left the island yesterday. when he was here they were reporting 16 total deaths related to hurricane maria. now it is up to 34. as we were looking to the causes of those deaths, it will break
your heart. two of them listed as suicide and three listed as lack of oxygen. i clarify lack of oxygen because they didn't have the power to run oxygen tanks, we were told yes, that's the reason. >> so sad indeed. leyla santiago reporting to us. coming up on the breaking news. president trump returns from a visit from the survivors and first responders and gunmen questioning the -- and they are questioning the gunman's girlfriend. dissolved solids remain! what if we filter it over and over? oh dear. thank goodness zerowater's five-stage filter gets to all zeroes the first time. so maybe it's time to upgrade. get more out of your water. get zerowater.
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